Check out the recent episode of the Catholic Therapist Podcast, as host Adam Cross LMFT talked with Tim White, Psy.D., M.A., Assistant Professor and Field Placement Director of the MS in Clinical Psychology program about leisure. Together, they explored what it means to rest in a culture that has forgotten how.
Drawing on the theology of the 8th day of creation, Joseph Pieper’s Leisure: The Basis of Culture, and the latest research in psychology and blue zone longevity, Adam and Tim make the case that leisure isn’t a reward you earn through hard work. It’s the foundation everything else is built on — including worship.
Topics covered:
• What real rest looks like (hint: it’s not Netflix or a beach vacation)
• Flow states, play, and why winners in sports look completely incoherent
• Mindfulness with God as a secure attachment figure
• Blue zones, enjoyment, and why leisure-centred living actually helps you live longer
• Practical steps for stepping out of the productivity trap and into Sabbath rest
If you’ve been burning the candle at both ends and wondering why you still feel empty, this conversation is for you. Nice work gentlemen!
